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Post by Dave Copeland on Dec 22, 2012 10:43:55 GMT
The following has been submitted about potential changes to the format and it would be good to hear your views and discuss the pros and cons of making changes.
Suggested format
•Keep the same points scoring system - that seems to work well enough.
•Keep the leagues.
•Remove the weekly 'head-to-head' for league games - the points scored alone will determine league placings. This is much fairer and at the end of the season the best, consistent forecasters will be the people rewarded by promotion to the next league.
•Keep the 'head-to-head' format for a couple of cup competitions. But the cup games will also be done at the weekend meaning that there will be no need for people to have to remember to submit a second set of scores during the week. Most of the people doing this are busy with work and families.
•Keep the weekly and monthly points winners (guaranteed to retain interest even for those who will not figure in the promotion chase).
•Keep manager of the season.
•Keep the compettion for highest number of correct predictions.
Benefits
•Much simpler for the members as they only have to submit a single set of scores and don't have to worry about midweek activity.
•Much fairer system to determine the winnings and at the same time retaining everyone's interest right to the end.
•A simpler and fairer format will ensure that membership is maintained and the club continues to benefit financially.
•Less administrative work for the organiser as the points system would be easier to apply to a spreadsheet and no midweek activity to chase up.
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Post by fastbaz on Dec 22, 2012 14:28:49 GMT
Cup games at weekend is better.
But dead against losing the head to head for league games. It is this that makes it interesting week in week out inc battling it out with known colleagues. It is also more akin to a real football league - the winner of the premiership is not down purely to who scores more goals - can you imagine how dull that would be. I for one will drop out if this change is made.
All others, ok I.e. keep as is.
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Post by nbarnes on Dec 22, 2012 17:45:01 GMT
Dead against scrapping the head to head league format. There is nothing better than scraping a 4-3 win over someone when you think you have no chance of winning that week. Cup matches being done on weekend is fine though.  |
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Post by alan1 on Dec 22, 2012 20:11:53 GMT
I agree that interest has to be kept but at the expense of not playing against someone you know or is a Mackem etc that you really want to beat. Is it those that have scored more points but languish at the bottom of leagues that want to see this change. I will not leave these predictions but will not be as happy if it does change.
All other points well noted and happy with and I hope more members have their say as it takes more than one or two to agree/disagree but plenty will moan if things change that they did not like.
Happy Christmas
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Post by sopster on Dec 23, 2012 9:07:17 GMT
Copes - the current format (points aside) has been nectar for as long as I can remember. I see no point in changing it. The fact that someone may have scored 50 points more than ANOther over the season but finishes below is git big tough tits as far as i'm concerned. Barnesy hit the nail on the head. A good 6-5 win for me is as good 24 points - especially if its against Franky!!
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Post by myoldmansaid on Dec 23, 2012 18:04:05 GMT
keep current format and keep dreaming soppitt  |
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Post by Dave Copeland on Dec 24, 2012 10:45:48 GMT
Other comments that were sent to me via e-mail rather than posted directly :
I much prefer the head to head format mate, no need to fix something that isn't broken. Cheers Jonny Mitch
The suggested new format sounds sensible to me! Percy A.
Don't change the head to head nothing funnier than winning when you've only got 6 points and someone in the office has 22 and has been beaten.
Also enjoyed the weekly cup matches, think coupon is great how you do it at the moment Dave. Rob P.
Just wanted to throw in my two penny worth !
I agree that removing the head-to-head basis would make the league fairer but would also remove a lot of interest (currently a high score does not necessarily mean a win, and vica-versa). It would also mean that the prizes for 'Manager of the Season' and 'Most Correct Predictions' would be guaranteed to go to one of the Division Champions who are already prize-winners.
The only change I would like to see is to the points awarded for each game. I feel that more onus should be placed on predicting the correct result - I would propose awarding 3 points for the correct result with 1 point for each correct score. This would maintain the current max of 5 points for an 'all correct prediction' but also reduce the points advantage gained for being 'lucky' enough to get everything right.
Keep up the good work ! Dave Halligan
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Post by malcolmcopeland on Dec 24, 2012 11:04:41 GMT
I have always thought that 3 pts for the correct result and 1pt for each correct score would be better.
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Post by malcolmcopeland on Dec 24, 2012 11:25:31 GMT
How about changing to a fixed score (of say 6 points) for not submitting a coupon. It takes a poor score to lose to that! It is quite annoying and a bit embarrasing losing to a 2v2 default coupon.... I know from bitter experience.....
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Post by Dave Copeland on Dec 31, 2012 9:52:58 GMT
I’ve canvassed the folk on my sheet about the proposed changes and we don’t want to any changes to the format of the league. We definitely want to retain the 1 vs 1 format – there are already weekly, monthly and season best manager prizes for the top scorers – we don’t think the league tables should be decided that way as well.
We’re not bothered about the midweek cup fixtures – to be honest it was a bit of a bind waiting for two sets of results. We’d prefer to revert to the cup games being decided on your main weekend predictions – but if you retained the midweek fixtures we’d not be too bothered.
Jon Mc
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Post by bluemoon on Jan 3, 2013 18:01:52 GMT
I think the mid-week cup fixtures were better as it meant that you could win something even if you did crap at the weekend! Also, it was something to keep up interest through the week.
If the majority are against the mid-week coupon, could the cup fixtures be done on a separate set of results? Say 5 championship games for example?
Mid-week was better as could use high profile games such as Champions League but think most important part is that different fixtures are used.
Agree that head to head is better and also agree with Dave H's method of scoring.
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